Wat u mean its just a discussion and not anyone’s concern. How cud it be for you who lauds and supports hanging of shoes around lord buddha.
Dont try to act like a wise guy that u are not.

There are many good christians around the world and practising that faith is all very fine. The problems start when people like u, a christian convert, tries to create disharmony and division in the society. People like you think urself over smart, very educated, modern and look down on those practising buddhism primitive and full of superstitions. Thats ur level of ignorance and stupidity. U tried to impersonate as a tulku and defend something undefendable. U tried to fool people when u dont even know the ABC of being a tulku. You must have felt very proud about it like ur fanatic evangical mentors. I know many such fanatics spread rumours that in bhutan and mongolia christians heads are chopped off and are mercilessly persecuted. These lies wud only stop when u all bhutanese are converted to christians. Muslims fanatics use force and violence and christian fanatics use all kinds of lure. Is this the strenght of such religions that one has to use a sword and bribe to convert people? Y dont u people respect others ability to reason and think and act on their free choice. Y are u people hell bent to exploit poor and vulnerable people. Is this the teachings of your doctrines?

Mindu dorje seems more like ur real name. U are a coward like I said and u will remain a coward person and will always indulge in negative actions. This is the meaning of christianity for you. Bribing and force conversion must not be allowed anywhere in the world and that goes in bhutan too.

Stop it now. It was just a discussion. It is none of our business to prove right or wrong. But it brought some light unto us. That is it and nothing more. Just forget it once and for all now.

What you are telling is that it is ok to garland lord buddha with shoes becoz
this is the moral standard of your part of the world. Since u hold so much conviction about it you thought to justify and come in defence of this action.

You say you are a 19 year old teenager and I wonder by that if u hinted that u cud be very wayward, immature and childish in thought to assert such demeaning act.

“To all people, who ” would sent those people, whoever have done this, to life prison” I want to say that you have to keep in mind that this happened in a place thousands of kilometers away from the next buddhist country. ”

Does your defence mean anyone living thousands of kilometres away can have a licence to stoop low and act in grossly undignified way towards lord Buddha. Globalisation is taking place, the world is getting smaller and buddhism is getting very popular as large number of people are embracing it in the west ( without force or material lure). It is a very peaceful dharma and I guess thats why people take advantage of it. Can the shop keeper put a garland of shoes on Quran or lord Jesus statue and put it on public display. Or if he is non-believer then can he put statue of his parents in exhibition and hang garlands of shoes around their neck. Cud u do it ? and wud u feel so much conviction and jump to its defence. I have been to Europe and I know that the people of Europe are smart enough to understand the difference between a garland of shoes and a garland of flowers.

“I doubt that the shopkeeper and his customers know about Buddha and how important such statues obviously are to some of you. For them it’s just a nice accessoire, which gives the shop a somehow “exotic” touch. ”

Nice try ! But again you imply as if no one in Swiss have any knowledge of buddha and Buddhism. Mind you, there are large number of Buddhists of Swiss national and so many more have atleast some idea of it.

What u mean by ’some of you’ ? Please, the statue is important not just to ’some bhutanese’ as u indicated but to all milions and millions of buddhists worldwide and even to so many non-buddhist too.

How can u suggest this businessman shopkeeper does not know what statue he bought. Wud u buy a thing not knowing what u bought.

“Furthermore you can’t practise all bhutanese moral standarts here in Europe, as I couldn’t do with all of mine in Bhutan. ”

Like I said you are suggesting that the moral standard in Austria is to humilate lord buddha who signify universal peace and compassion. Even at 19, I think u cant be this ridiculous. My 13 year old nephew has alot more sensibilities and understanding than you. I think this is not the Austrian culture that u are trying to represent. Any Austrian would be in shame to hear this weird statement.

Furthermore, not only all bhutanese protest it but all decent people in different parts of the world disapprove such incident. This include people of Swiss and Austrian nationals too.

Please note well, since u failed in your all eagerness to justify, that the first person to bring this to light is a horrified Indian tourist family and of different faith – not bhutanese or buddhist.

“In Europe religious symbols are not that important in every day life, everybody is allowed to practise his/her faith, but must acceppt, that there are other religiouns, which have to exist peacefully next to each other and to the people, who don’t believe in any religion.”

Here you are contradicting urself. Now u are saying everybody is allowed to his/her faith but must exist peacefully. Do you know Buddhism is one of the major religions of the world. And that His Holiness the Dalai Lama was voted more popular than Pope in Germany. Since u now acknowledge there is multi faith in europe and must exist peacefully. Are u implying garlanding shoes on Lord Buddha is existing peacefully and being respectful of other faith that u defend such action.

Sorry to say for 19 thats sprouting such an ill informed, ill logical perception of mind. I really feel scared for you and hope that your development of mind will take a course that is fair, open, and with a clear basic understanding of what is actually right and wrong.

“Greetings from beautiful country of Austria to the beautiful kingdom of Bhutan,”

Likewise

I am not concerned of shoulds and should nots of other people including yours. I am not arguing anything here. And you know the sleeping minds of Bhutanese and people of other parts of the world. One needs to hammer. It is not a question of respecting each other’s religion and all those nonsense. Mankind had been doing this down the centuries and we still fight each other and destroy each other in the name of God or faith and so forth. My point here is not to dilute the truth with beautiful words. I still want to hammer that to have faith in images or God or Buddha or Christ or so forth is one of the shortest and the surest way for stupidity. Whether we like it or not this is the truth. I am not going to compromise anything. I am not arguing but sharing my light. Those who want to receive this light will receive. If it goes against some of your conditionings think that it is not meant for you all.

Bye.

I’m 19 years old, native Austrian (Europe) and interested in bhutanese culture and people. That’s how i found this page and after i did read the article and a major part of the discussion i decided to say somrthing about that issue.

To all people, who ” would sent those people, whoever have done this, to life prison” I want to say that you have to keep in mind that this happened in a place thousands of kilometers away from the next buddhist country. I doubt that the shopkeeper and his customers know about Buddha and how important such statues obviously are to some of you. For them it’s just a nice accessoire, which gives the shop a somehow “exotic” touch. Furthermore you can’t practise all bhutanese moral standarts here in Europe, as I couldn’t do with all of mine in Bhutan. In Europe religious symbols are not that important in every day life, everybody is allowed to practise his/her faith, but must acceppt, that there are other religiouns, which have to exist peacefully next to each other and to the people, who don’t belive in any religion.
But I also want to say something to Tulku Sergyel Bomdhem. Although I aggree with you in some points e.g. that faith doesn’t have to be bound on rituals and statues, you have to acceppt, that there are people, who see those things as an important part of their religion. Of course you are free to post your opinion, but you could have done that in a less offensive way. You cant’t force them to aggree with you, as they can’t force you to aggree with them. In my opinion the best thing to do would have been to write down your meaning in a friendly way and invite people to think about it, instead simply insulting them with every word.

Concluding I want to say that it’s all about respecting each other as equal human beeings. Discussion is important, but it must happen without bad words!

Greetings from beautiful country of Austria to the beautiful kingdom of Bhutan,

Sebastian